Thursday, June 30, 2011

Response to Fairwinds Baptist Church Morning Sermon June 26, 2011

I really enjoyed listening this morning to Pastor Carlo's sermon that he gave this past Sunday (June 26th) at Fairwinds Baptist Church (Bear, DE).  As in the vast majority of Baptist sermons that I listen to, Pastor Carlo preaches loudly and clearly truths that both Baptist and Catholics firmly believe in.  So, I ask the reader to take this response first as an affirmation of many of the things Pastor Carlo spoke about on Sunday.  Indeed, nothing is impossible for God, creator of heaven and earth.

It is in this framework, however, that I would like to make a connection by way of extending the very theological framework of God's omnipotence that Pastor Carlo discusses.

Notice how Pastor Carlo summarizes the expression of God's omnipotence in Genesis 1:



In Genesis 1, God's Word is seen as efficacious.  That is, God's Word literally brings into existence that which it speaks.  In Genesis, God quite truly spoke the universe into existence.  Quite humbling, eh?  Can you or I say "let there be light" and have light itself come into being?

Knowing that God's Word is efficacious and that for God, nothing is impossible, I wonder then why Pastor Carlo believes the following words, spoken at the moment of institution of the New Covenant were not efficacious:

"Take and eat.  This is my body."

Of course, these are the words spoken by God at the Last Supper.  Just like God spoke the universe into existence, he spoke bread and wine into his body, blood, soul, and divinity.

Impossible?

As Pastor Carlo rightly notes: nothing is impossible with God!

Further still, our God is a God who keeps his promises.  Jesus's bread-of-life discourse in John 6 hinges on an unspoken promise: that He will make provision to provide his body and blood to Christians for them to consume.  In the Eucharist, Jesus keeps His promise and demonstrates his absolute power over all creation.  In the Eucharist, Jesus takes the form of bread and wine to remain present with us, to commune with us, and to abide with us.

Despite the fact that many Christians today believe that Jesus was only speaking symbolically in John 6 when he said "my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink," the students of the apostles themselves and their successors believed without question that Jesus was speaking literally.  St. Ignatius of Antioch, who studied with St. John himself and was appointed to pastor the Church in Antioch after Peter left for Rome, is strong and unequivocal in his affirmation of Jesus's real presence in the Holy Eucharist:
"They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in his goodness, raised up again" (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 110 AD).
St. Ignatius makes draws the same link that Jesus does in John 6 between the bread of life and the flesh that will suffer on the cross.  Their point: it is the same flesh!

Jesus's real presence in the Eucharist was such a deeply accepted aspect of the early church's faith that it became the basis for arguing for and demonstrating Jesus's own resurrection, which must have occurred to allow Christians to partake of his glorified body and blood, hidden as they were under the appearance of bread and wine.

If anyone doubts that Jesus is capable of turning bread and wine into His body and blood, just consider the many Eucharistic miracles that have occurred through the ages.  Throughout Christian history, there exist many instances in which the bread and wine of communion not only took on the divine substance of Christ but also the accidents of his body.  These miracles can be studied more closely here.

To recap:  I strongly affirm Pastor Carlo's message that the Word of God is alive and efficacious, and that God keeps his promises.

Christians have no better example of that than in the bread and wine of Holy Communion, which become the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.***

Will you come and receive Him?

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***Please note: not just anyone can pick up bread and wine and perform this miracle.  Only Jesus, through the ministry of His priests who act in the person of Christ, can consecrate the bread and wine.  This miracle occurs every day in every Catholic Church in the Mass.

Friday, June 24, 2011

Eucharistic Flash Mob!

I LOVE it!  How AWESOME to see our Lord in the public square, with faithful Catholics kneeling in adoration!

This video is worth watching in its entirety.  Not only is it inspiring to hear the monk proclaim Jesus's presence in every book of the Bible, but the end of the message, which proclaims Jesus's triumph over, well, everything, is as inspiring as the reaction of those kneeling in adoration!



H/T: Barbara Curtis!

Tuesday, June 21, 2011

Response to Robert vanVeen on Baptism

The following is a response that I sent to Robert vanVeen, a member of Fairwinds Baptist Church (Bear, DE).  This letter responds to a comment that Robert left on my Aug. 2, 2009 post on baptism.

I am grateful for the time that Robert took to read and respond to my Catholic perspective on baby dedication.  May this interaction provide a springboard for further discussion and reflection on our Baptist and Catholic beliefs so that we, with the gracious assistance of the Holy Spirit, can open our minds and hearts to the unity Jesus so desires us Christians to have (see John 17).

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Dec. 7, 2010

Dear Robert,

Peace be with you this Advent season!

Thanks so much for commenting on my blog post, and sorry for the delayed response.  I just saw the notification of your comment this evening.

I'm a bit tired this evening, given the late hour, so I'll be brief in my comments, though I would be happy to entertain any questions you would have for me about why I believe that to be a true Bible Christian is to be a Catholic Christian.

Regarding Baptism and my response to Pastor Carlo's comments, I would be interested to hear you engage more directly with the arguments that I put forth.  There is an irony in your first statement, since I engage what Pastor Carlo is saying, literally quoting him word for word, analyzing the structure of his comments, teasing out some of the underlying theology that supports the practice of baby dedication, and ultimately showing how aspects of this theology and practice are inconsistent with Scripture.  In this and other posts, I try to show how the Bible tells us quite a lot about Baptism that disagrees with Pastor Carlo's theology.

Here is your comment, with the rest of my responses appearing in line:

RV:  I do believe that you take alot of things out of context

DS:  Could you support that statement by naming some things?

RV:  ...to fit your arguments...

DS:  I wish I could claim them as my arguments.  They are really the arguments regarding Baptism that I learned from the students of the apostles and their successors.  Have you read the early church fathers, and do you know that the early church was Catholic, not only in its beliefs about Baptism but also the Eucharist (the Lord's Supper), church hierarchy, etc.?  Often when I talk to Protestants, there is not a clear sense of whose arguments they are putting forth.  I've met few Protestants (even pastors) who really understand the origin of many of the beliefs they preach about.

RV:  ...rather than using points that directly relate...

DS:  Relate to what?  (Clarification, please.)

RV:  ...in a manner that doesn't seem to be bending words, even ever so slightly.

DS:  Which words have I bent?  I would actually argue that it is Baptist theologians who bend words in the Bible to create their theology.  A classic example of this in regard to Baptism can be seen in the interpretation of 1 Peter 3:21 by most Baptist pastors I've heard.  1 Peter 3:21: "Baptism now saves you."  Please see my blog post on this verse.

RV:  And secondly, you do not seem to understand that there is an age of accountability.

DS:  I absolutely understand that there is an age of accountability.  Catholics who pass this age and choose to sin against God and neighbor must confess their sins to God.  But notice that the entire discussion hinges upon whether or not a person is automatically "saved" if they have not reached this age yet.  Romans 5 seems to indicate that we are born as children of Adam, which means we are born in a state of sin called original sin.  We are born as disgraced children of Adam and Eve and are incapable of living with the Father in Heaven if we are not "born from above" (John 3).  That is why Jesus says that "unless we are born again, we shall not inherit the kingdom of God."  We must be born again.  And, if you read the very next verses, Jesus makes it clear through a literary parallelism that to be born again means to be born of water and spirit.  And what is the context of this verse?  Baptism!  Jesus is baptized, and it is at Jesus's baptism that we see the descent of the Holy Spirit and the proclamation of Jesus's sonship.  Likewise, it is at our baptism that we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, who regenerates us, making us a new creation, and making us spiritual capable of living the beatific vision as members of Christ's mystical body.  And it is at our Baptism that God the Father claims us as his sons through Jesus Christ.  Baptism is a profound miracle that results from Christ's actions on our souls, and it is a required action that we be regenerated by Christ through the Holy Spirit.  It is Jesus who ties together water and spirit, just like it is God who created us as both physical and spiritual beings.  Jesus himself, in entering the water, made water a vehicle for communicating his Holy Spirit to those whom he calls.

RV:  An infant, unable to understand the difference between right and wrong will without a doubt enter into Heaven if they died (heaven forbid) at their young age.

DS:  How do you know this?  This strikes me as a very presumptuous statement when God's Holy Word states that Adam's sin brought condemnation to all.  (Romans 5).  Your sentence makes it sound like it is only the individual sins of a person after reaching the age of accountability that could bring condemnation on their soul.

RV:  The child has to reach that understanding before they can be baptised,

DS:  Where is that in the Bible?  Old Testament children didn't have to reach this age before being allowed into the covenant family at circumcision.  The Bible shows that Baptism fulfills circumcision, which was offered on the eighth day of life.  The early church had arguments about infant baptism, but the argument wasn't whether to baptize infants or not.  The argument was:  why wait eight days?  How strong was the early church's belief in infant baptism, that this practice existed for centuries without every being questioned by a single Christian anywhere.

RV:  ...and not just sprinkled with water, but rather "burried", and "raised again" in Christ's likeness, fully submerged in water.

DS:  I'll leave aside the whole sprinkling vs. immersion debate for now.  Here, you are repeating the same false dichotomy that Pastor Carlo gets hung up on (baptism with water vs. being buried with Christ).  Please see my blog post to him that I linked to above (especially the latter half).  For Catholics, we are buried with Christ precisely when we are baptized, whether by sprinkling or immersion.  St. Paul himself says that we were "buried with Christ in baptism."  St. Paul locates being buried with Christ precisely at the moment that we are baptized.  In fact, according to St. Paul, it is through baptism that we are buried with him.  Baptist theology would tell me that I was buried with Christ when I accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior, and that absolutely nothing spiritual happens when I'm baptized, since this is only a symbol of what has already happened.  Not according to St. Paul!  Go back and read the Scriptures on this point again.  What is Paul really saying?  Are we buried with Christ in baptism, or are we buried with Christ before baptism, and baptism doesn't save us.  (Also reread 1 Peter 3:21 here.)

RV:  The dedication of a child unto God is an act of offering your child up to God so that they might grow up wanting to serve Him and follow His will. Since that child is free to choose wheather or not they want to follow God when they reach their age of accountability, which is different for each child, the parents are prayed for as well, so that they might have the knowledge and understanding to raise their child in the way of the Lord, not the way of the world.

DS:  All this is very good to do, and we do it as Catholics as well.  I dedicate my children to God constantly, but this is fundamentally a different thing from when God regenerates my child.  I can dedicate my baby.  Only God can regenerate my baby, which he does through the Sacrament of Baptism.

RV:  Baptising an infant is pointless since the child can not understand the choice to follow God or not.

DS:  And here, we get to the crux of the issue.  Do you see how your theology of baptism is ultimately dependent on man's works, man's abilities, man's agency, man's "choice to follow God," etc.?  For Catholics, our salvation is dependent entirely on God's action.  God can regenerate a person even if that person is not yet able to consciously choose God for themselves.  Go back and read all of those parables where people call out to Jesus for healing for someone who is not present or able to ask for themselves.  Does Jesus say: "no, the person must ask me personally before I will heal them physically or spiritually"?  Of course not!  Rather, he often says, "no where in Israel have I seen such great faith."  So, do you think that when I bring my children, born dead in original sin, to Jesus to be regenerated, trusting completely in his infinite grace and mercy, that he will say: "no, I'm going to let your children grow in a state of sin until they can personally ask me to save them"?

RV:  Dedicating a child unto God is an act of faith, it says, "here, Lord, take my child and mold him (or her) into the way you would have him (or her) be." Since the parents are responsible for the child and the child will learn from them, it only makes sense that the pastor would pray over them too while dedicating the child.

DS:  I completely agree.  In the sacrament of Baptism, parents also have beautiful prayers prayed over them for these same reasons.  And, as you describe baby dedication being an act of faith, the Sacrament of Baptism is also an act of faith on the part of the parents and the entire faith community.  It is on account of this faith to raise the baptized infant in the Lord that Jesus lovingly looks upon the infant and regenerates their soul, all through His infinite power, grace, and mercy...even if that infant can do nothing but poop.  But then, salvation is not based at all on man's works.  What a more beautiful proof of this is there than infant baptism, since the baby can do absolutely nothing (even praying a sinner's prayer) to be saved?  Salvation is entirely God's work, not man's.  To make salvation dependent in the slightest way on something man does is to make salvation works based, at least in part.  It is a sad irony that it is the Catholics always being accused of salvation by works, when it is actually Protestant theology that, in practice, posits at least one necessary work on the part of the person being saved.

RV:  If you do not understand this, then you should try listening to a sermon sometime instead of tearing it apart. it would do you some good.

DS:  Indeed, Pastor Carlo's sermons have many good things in them, and I have listened to over 75% of the sermons he has preached for the last two years.  Those things about which he is right deserve to be shouted from the rooftops.  Jesus Christ is Lord.  He is the only way to Heaven.  We are all destined for Heaven and Hell.  All of these things are wonderfully good, wonderfully true, and wonderfully taught also by the Catholic Church.  Unfortunately, many people outside the Catholic Church don't really understand the Catholic Church's teachings, and these teachings get twisted by people who oppose her.  So, it is important that you read what Catholics have to say about Catholicism, not just what people who protest her have to say.  (How balanced and fair would that be?)  For as much as I admire and respect Pastor Carlo, he has a very twisted view of Catholicism, and unfortunately, his mistaken views of Catholicism color his teaching, especially when it comes to distinctly Catholic topics such as the regenerating effects of Baptism.

St. Paul tells us to "test everything, holding to what is good."  A lot of people tell me that it is not right to critique a pastor.  But St. Paul, in the Bible, actually encourages us to critique our pastors!  Test everything!  St. Paul even applauded the Bereans for testing him!  How else can I test Pastor Carlo's sermons (in order to find what is good and not good) other than to analyze them in light of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the early church that have been passed down to us in this day?  Does Pastor Carlo claim to be infallible?  If not, how does anyone at FBC know when to be obedient to his interpretations of the Bible if they don't also, to some degree, analyze what he is saying?

You might be interested to know that there is currently a tidal wave of people being surprised by the truth of the Catholic Church...former non-Catholics who once opposed the Catholic Church but, upon learning what she actually teaches, have found themselves joining her.  And these aren't just uneducated people who didn't really understand their Protestant background.  We're talking about well-respected, intelligent Protestant pastors, some of them at the very top of Evangelical circles, who give up their entire life because they found the Catholic Church to be the true Church that Jesus established.  For just one of hundreds upon hundreds of examples, take Francis Beckwith, the former president of the Evangelical Theological Society, who recently became a Roman Catholic.  I would be happy to share with you mp3 recordings of the conversion stories of Baptist pastors, many of whom had strong anti-Catholic roots, who are now Catholics.

In a nutshell, the reasons these converts provide are:
1.  The Bible made me do it.  (Tim Staples)
2.  The Catholic Church made the Bible come alive (Scott Hahn and Steve Ray)  (Hahn is a former Presbyterian)
3.  The Catholic Church is the Church found in the first centuries of Christianity.  (You can prove this to yourself by reading the 20 volumes of writings we have from the early church.  It is like going to a Bible study with the students of the apostles!)
4.  The Catholic Church, they found, contains the fullness of the truth and all the means of grace (especially the sacraments) that Jesus left to sustain the life of his Bride, the mystical body of Christ.
5.  Many more reasons...just listen to their stories!

Okay....I hope that helps you to see a bit better where I'm coming from.  I view you as a brother in Christ, but a separated brother.  Our separated state is neither of our faults, and the divisions within Christianity can only be overcome by Christians such as you and I communicating with each other regarding how our similarities and differences.  Let us pray that that we may one day be one as Christ an Father are one (John 17).

In Him who loved us first,

Danny

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 What do you think?  Let's keep the conversation alive!

Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Response to Tobe Witmer of Lighthouse Baptist Church - February 13, 2011 - On "Liberty Issues"

This post is part of an ongoing set of responses to Tobe Witmer's (Lighthouse Baptist Church, Newark, DE) series on the book of Romans, which he preached on through the entire 2010 calendar year.

This post responds to the February 13, 2011 sermon on Romans 14, which concerned itself with the idea of "liberty issues," areas in which "good and Godly Christians" are free to disagree.  Because there are only a few points I'd like to make, I'll stick to quoting from Witmer's sermon notes, which can be downloaded here.  Links to the sermon video can be found by visiting LBC's site.

I'll put my quotes from Witmer's notes in blue.

Witmer begins by defining "liberty areas:"

“Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind” (v. 5) - that is a Passive
command to come to conclusions (fully persuaded) in Liberty areas based on the Word of God
for yourself, for your family. The command also means that you don’t come to conclusions in
Liberty areas for other families and people around you -- and so is the heart of this entire
argument that lasts to the end of the chapter.

According to Witmer, liberty areas are to be decided on by the individual for the individual, and one should not draw conclusions for other Christians.  Of course, the Bible does give advice about how to handle liberty areas so as not to give scandal to other Christians who are sensitive or who think differently about a certain "liberty."  Witmer comments on this instruction later, and he has good things to say.  I really appreciate the sensitivity he demonstrates toward other Christians in these areas.  However, I'd like to go through the sermon as it unfolds in the notes.  

Also, the focus of my comments will be on a different issue altogether:  who has the authority to define what areas are to be considered "liberty areas"?  After all, what good is a "liberty area" if there is not an authority to define what these areas are?  Indeed, without such an authority, the idea is actually a dangerous one, since it could allow a Christian who is living in sin to simply decide for himself that his sin is actually just a liberty area.

So, the (potentially life- and soul-jeopardizing) questions for Pastor Witmer will be:
1.  What are liberty areas?
2.  Who decides what those areas are?
3.  Is the decision of what constitutes a liberty area itself a liberty area?
4.  Where does the Bible establish principles for how to deal with modern moral "gray areas" (such as abortion and the question of when life begins, divorce and remarriage, artificial contraception, artificial insemination, tube babies, human torture, etc.)

If liberty areas are few and unimportant, then why spend two sermons talking about them?  However, I think, and I hope the reader will agree, that "liberty areas" is actually an area where wars are fought--wars about ideas--but wars that have life or death consequences all the same.

Witmer goes on:

By liberty issues - I don’t mean Fundamental doctrine of Scripture - I mean applications
or interpretations of different issues that good and Godly men see differently

This statement doesn't clarify much.  First, "doctrines" are interpretations of Scripture.  It is as if Witmer is saying: "I don't mean interpretations of Scripture.  I mean interpretations of Scripture."

You see, once one invokes "liberty issues," the conversation can not go much farther until one defines what those issues are.

The Church at Rome were a Motley Crew - a mixture of Jews and Gentiles (by the way, this
isn’t the Roman Catholic Heresy that emerged from the church - this is the real, true church) ---
this mixture of Jews and Gentiles produced some challenges of O.T. and N.T. practices - among
these were kinds of meat a Christian could eat (dietary laws), Sabbaths and special days - do
we still practice them? and Circumcision

So, we here get our first list of "issues."  Before that, though, Pastor Witmer reveals a bit of his lack of understanding of Church history.  Namely, he seems to think that the Church in Rome was different in its beliefs than the Roman Catholic Church today.  While those beliefs have certainly developed over time, none of them have changed.  For instance, the first-century Church in Rome when Paul was writing accepted the papacy, venerated the saints, and celebrated the Mass.  None of these "Catholic heresies" emerged centuries later when Constantine made the Catholic faith the official religion of the  Roman Empire.  The problem for Witmer is that any date he chooses to say that the "Roman Catholic Heresy" emerged, I can show him documentary evidence that the people in the early church before that date believed Catholic doctrine.

Getting back to the list of "challenges," we have the dietary laws, Sabbaths and special days, and circumcision.
As Witmer rightly goes on to say, even though we are not bound by the Jewish dietary laws, the Jewish Sabbath (Saturday worship), and circumcision, each of these areas made for a somewhat rough transition for Jewish Christians who were leaving their ingrained customs behind for their new faith.

Precisely because it was such a hard transition, we see the need for someone to define "liberty areas" with authority.  We see this happen in regard to circumcision at the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15.  The early church was being split by the question of whether gentile converts first needed to be circumcised before they could enter the faith.  

At a deeper level, the question was: is circumcision a "liberty issue."  One side said "No! It is not a liberty issue! Gentiles MUST be circumcised."  The other side said "Yes! It is a liberty issue.  We can choose for ourselves whether or not we want to be circumcised."

Once again, can you see how liberty issues involve not just the issue itself, but who gets to decide?  That is why, without an outside authority, liberty issues divide churches.  Just think: if the apostles hadn't held a council at Jerusalem to make an authoritative decision, the early church could have divided into schism over (what one side would call) a liberty area.
However, "it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us" that Gentiles did NOT need to be circumcised (Acts 15).  With this ruling, both sides were convinced that the area was a liberty issue.

In contrast, within Protestantism, "liberty issues" remain bones of contention that serve to divide Christians into more and more denominations.
There are many such “liberty” issues that good and godly believers differ on that are not
clearly spelled out Doctrine. Unfortunately, some Fundamental Christians have gotten very
ugly and militant on these “rabbit trail issues” and have judged other Christians and elevated
these issues to the level of Doctrine. Are liberty issues are no longer so much Sabbaths,
circumcision, and dietary laws --- but are things like women wearing pants, attending the
Theater, the Version debate, certain Music, etc.) - We need to apply the truths here to our own
“doubtful disputations” in Fundamentalism that are not clear Doctrine and good and Godly
men see differently than we may see it.

Here, Pastor moves away from the examples of circumcision, etc. to the modern "liberty areas:" women wearing pants, attending the theatre, the Version debate, certain Music, etc.

He also invokes "clear doctrine," though that is really the heart of the debate, no?  After all, something being "clear" is a bit subjective, since doctrines (and liberty areas) that are clear to one Christian are not clear to another.
Who has the authority to decide?

And what about areas like (non-excessive) drinking of alcohol?  Many good and Godly Christians see no problem with drinking a glass of wine.  Is this a liberty area, or would Witmer say these Christians are sinning?  I personally know many Baptists who enjoy a single glass of wine and feel the need to make a joke about "not telling my pastor."  Is drinking in moderation a sin?  
And if so (or not so), where does the Bible clearly say one way or another?  If a "liberty area" is an area involving an "application" like Witmer said earlier, then surely the subject of having a beer would be a liberty issue, since one must apply Biblical ideas to making a ruling.

As you read Witmer's sermon, you see how easy it is to get caught up in the problem of "liberty issues" without: (1) actually defining clearly what those areas are and (2) showing that you have the authority to define the area as being a "liberty area."
So, when Pastor Witmer goes on to harp on the "don't despise, don't judge" verses, it is fundamentally unclear in what areas we are to apply this advice.  Again, the danger is that end up not judging enough!  The danger is that we allow a brother in the Lord who is falling into sin to continue in that sin because we say to ourselves that it must, for that person, be a liberty area.  "Don't judge," right?

I'm going to skip a bit, but you should be getting the drift.  Please be sure to read all the sermon notes, linked to above. 

Now remember, this isn’t a man living in sin, it is a man that sees and practices a minor issue
of the Christian life differently than you do. - He hasn’t ignored Scripture or twisted Scripture,
he understands it and applies it differently than you.

This is good Christian teaching, but useless unless we know how to judge whether an issue is a liberty area or not.  After all, Pastor Witmer refuses, for instance, to admit that my interpretations of Scripture are valid just because they are different from his in certain areas.  How do we know those areas are NOT liberty areas, but other areas are, if Witmer doesn't define them?  And, who made Pastor Witmer the authority for defining the areas of Scripture that I'm not allowed to interpret for myself?

My Brother and I both love the Lord - however, He takes his family to see clean Movies and I do
not because I feel like that is a bad testimony, association, support of Hollywood, etc. - He says I do
the same thing when I rent from a Redbox. We disagree and the Lord receives us both.

First, it must be said that both Pastor Witmer and his brother are being model Christians in their concerns.   More Catholics (including myself at times) need to follow Pastor Witmer's advice here.  Admittedly, making wise decisions about how to interact (or not interact) with the secular world is difficult.  On the one hand, we all have to do it to some degree, and so Pastor Witmer and his brother are so much arguing about a difference but a degree of interaction.  I applaud and am inspired by both of their faithfulness to the Lord in attempting to make Godly decisions in this area!

Remember the fundamental point: without a list of "liberty areas," it is very difficult to apply the points above, and even possible to apply them wrongly to areas that are not "liberty areas" out of fear of being judgmental.

All the above anecdote adds to our list is one more area: whether or not go to the movies, and in what venue is it appropriate to see a clean movie.

Most Christians probably already know that they at least should attempt to make wise decisions on fronts like this.

The problem is that Christians deeply disagree over other liberty issues (artificial contraception, in-vitro fertilization, etc.) that have pretty significant consequences.  The issue of "liberty area" has consequences that extend much farther than a movie venue.  Further, the issues that Paul was facing in Romans were much larger in scope and significance than the movie/women's pants/version issues that Witmer is talking about.

Notice that so far, the most critical questions haven't really been addressed:

1.  What are liberty areas?
2.  Who decides what those areas are?
3.  Is the decision of what constitutes a liberty area itself a liberty area?
4.  Where does the Bible establish principles for how to deal with modern moral "gray areas" (such as abortion and the question of when life begins, divorce and remarriage, artificial contraception, artificial insemination, tube babies, human torture, etc.)

This is Huge for Christian practice in the Church -- it is the liberty that we all have as priests
to our God to interpret and apply Scripture for ourselves. Not to discount Pastors, not to
discount clear Doctrine -- but everyman is a priest to study and apply the Scripture. It is
commanded for every believer to determine by seriously considering Scripture to determine
how he will practice these liberty issues.


And here, we finally get to the issue of authority.  But notice that Witmer's "answer" really doesn't answer anything!  He cites the principle of the "priesthood of all believers" to back up the right that every Christian has to decide for him or herself how to "practice these liberty areas."  In other words, Pastor Witmer's answer addresses question No. 2 above.  But the problem is, he hasn't addressed question no. 1, which comes first!

Do we, given our status as priests, also have the right to determine and interpret the Bible for ourselves when it comes to what these liberty issues are, and what fundamental Bible doctrines are?

Furthermore, it gets even more complicated, since the Bible clearly speaks of church authorities of Bishop, Priest, and Deacon.  The Greek word for the second term is actually presbyteros, which Catholics contract into the anglicized word "priest."  But this office of priest is distinct from the role of the layman in the Bible, even though lay Christians also have a priestly role in the NT church.  Still, this role is different from the authority structure found in the Holy Orders of the ministerial priesthood layed out by the NT as bishop, presbyteros, and deacon.

We see in the NT that it was primarily the bishops (the apostles were the first bishops, and when they died, someone else filled their "bishopric"; see Acts 1) who authoritatively interpreted God's Word which they had received in the fullness and person of Christ.  We see this play out in Acts 15 at the Council of Jerusalem, discussed earlier.

Unfortunately, because Witmer rejects the existence of such an authoritative body today to define what are and are not liberty areas, he struggles to give a satisfying explanation of how we answer question no. 1: how we determine authoritatively what these areas are.

Thus:

There are many of these within Christianity -- You are not to ignore these disputed issues,
but rather search Scriptural verses, N.T. doctrine, and principle and make the call for yourself
asking the guidance of God to lead you --- You cannot rest on what my family does in these
issues -- When good and Godly men see an issue differently -- you must consider it and be fully
persuaded in your own mind!  (Witmer's highlighting)


So here we come to the nub of it: you should ask God to guide you.
Well, yes.  That is generally true for everything we do in life, especially in liberty issues where either decision is morally acceptable.

But the real problem is: what are those liberty issues.


After all, abortion is not a liberty issue.  But what if someone in Witmer's congregation thought that it was a liberty issue???  That person might interpret the words above to mean: "don't listen to your family (who is telling her not to get an abortion).  Rather, pray to God, and be fully persuaded in your own mind that getting the abortion is what God wants you to do."


Do you see how "liberty areas" are really a matter of life and death if question no. 1 has not been addressed?


Things remain a bit fuzzy in that Witmer continues talking about early church quandries without addressing modern day problems:


God further explains how He accepts believers who differ in these issues -- He says in v. 6
(read) -- God says -- The believer who sets the Sabbath or special Jewish holy day aside does it
or “regards it” - practices the honoring of that day “unto the Lord”, and the Believer who does
not regard it -- He also honors the Lord by choosing not to honor that day.


Well, once again, things are a bit more complicated.  After all, the Jewish Sabbath has actually been fulfilled in the "Lord's Day," Sunday, the first day of the week and the new day of Creation in Christ.  It is this day that the early church faithfully met, and Christians are commanded to keep the Sabbath, an eternal law written in the Ten Commandments.  The only change is from Saturday to Sunday.  We now rest at the beginning of our labors, not at the end!  A Christian actually does NOT have the liberty of choosing not to honor God on this day!  Yet, Witmer's text above makes it seem like because Saturday worship is no longer required, that Sabbath worship has also been entirely discarded.
Notice how Witmer wraps things up:
Pastor Kosher was the young Youth Pastor at the High School I attended. He came to
me and another friend one day and asked us if we thought the Holy Spirit would tell two
people conflicting things. ----- He was struggling with the Bible truth here that two Christians
could practice different things in their Christian lives and both of them be honoring the Lord.
Again, without knowing whether the issue was a liberty issue or not, it is impossible for this story to be meaningful.  If the issue was about eating meat or being a vegetarian, then it is perfectly acceptable for the Holy Spirit to move people in one direction or the other, since both options are fine.  However, what if the issue was on abortion?  Would the Holy Spirit move someone to save their baby and move someone else to kill it?
Witmer summarizes (with my comments in brackets):
1. Clear Doctrine in Scripture is not a matter of liberty [But who defines clear doctrine authoritatively, and to whom is it "clear"?].
2. There are issues/applications of our Christian life similar to these that we will see differently [Christains are so divided that everything is an issue that is seen differently.  Who decides which differences are permissible and which are heresy?]
3. Each believer must look at Scripture seeking God’s discernment to make decisions for
himself in these areas of liberty. He must be fully persuaded of what He should do and do it [But where can I find a full list of these liberty areas?  Is the list forever complete, or do new options in life automatically get added to the libery (or non-liberty) list?]
4. We must not judge another believer who comes do a different conclusion. He is God’s
servant who God receives and is supporting.  [Is this only true for liberty areas?  If it is generally true, then why does Witmer contstantly judge Catholics to be heretics?  Why can't he at least take the loving approach and say that we simply interpret the Bible differently than he does?]
5. - back where we started [Yes, indeed.] - We are to fellowship willingly with each other even if we disagree,
but we are not to doubtfully and hurtfully quarrel about these things - they are Minor issues
compared to Clear Doctrine, preaching the gospel, and edifying believers. 
While I appreciate Witmer's attempt to address this critical issue for believers, it become clear rather quickly that "liberty areas" is a concept that highlights the need for an authority to define what those issues in fact are.
At the same time, it is critical that Pastor Witmer be able to explain by what authority he decides what areas are liberty areas and which are not, lest his listeners fall into the trap of thinking that anything they may decide to do or believe could be justified by falling under the umbrella of "liberty."

Wednesday, May 11, 2011

Response to John Piper Bethlehem Baptist Sermon, Part 4

This blog entry is the fourth, and final in a series of critiques of a set of John Piper's sermons on baptism.  You can read the first, second, and third entries by following the links provided.

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This final segment in my response to a series of sermons on baptism by John Piper is long overdue.  When I started responding to these sermons, I had no idea what a powerful figure in evangelical churches that John Piper has become.  Indeed, he is one of the most eloquent, gifted speakers that I have heard.  At the same time, I think there is a grave danger when listening to speakers of Piper's talent of turning off one's critical thinking.  In the case of Piper's sermons on baptism, I believe that a little critical thinking can expose the many holes in the teaching he has assembled.  Sometimes these holes are quite obvious, such as those found in his treatment of Tertullian.  Other times, those holes are easily missed.  For instance, the absence of allowing any other of the early church fathers to have a say in the conversation, is similar to giving a history of the US without mentioning the Revolutionary or Civil Wars.  The absence says more about the well-formedness of the speaker's views than the historical (and in this case, theological) topics being discussed.  Piper seems to have little interest in cross-checking his teachings with those of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church that have been around since the beginning.  However eloquent it may be, his message is a modern dance around a modern, novel understanding of baptism that does not date back to the teaching of the apostles, who taught that "baptism...now saves you" (1 Peter 3:21).

While some readers, on that basis alone, might be perfectly willing to leave Piper's interpretations behind, others understandably would like to see the holes for themselves.  Of course, in the process, readers are likely to find many holes in my own arguments.  I invite these readers to, in a spirit of Christian charity, to share their own thoughts about this exchange using the comments feature at the end of this article.  (Perhaps some readers may want to pick up the critique where I left off...)

As always, blue words are Piper's, red words are from Scripture, and black words are my own.

Part 4

"WHAT BAPTISM PORTRAYS"

Romans 5:20-6:4

Today is the last message in this short series on baptism. I know there is so much more to say. I'm sorry if I have left unanswered some of your questions. But we will have more opportunities in various settings to discuss these things.

Of course, time is one of the most severe limits on human creativity. In a short series, Piper can not cover everything.

But I wonder why there has been so little mentioned about the faith of the first Christians regarding baptism. After all, wasn’t baptizing part of the great commission? Wasn’t baptism part of the first gospel message preached at the beginning of the book of Acts? Doesn’t Jesus get baptized, and isn’t this baptism accompanied by a miraculous sign and a voice from heaven? Isn’t baptism placed by Paul in Ephesians as part of a list of really important things: one faith, one Lord, one baptism?

One would imagine then that the early church would likely have a lot to say about baptism.

They did.

The earliest Christian writings we have to this day, such as the Didache, the epistle of Barnabas, the letters of St. Ignatius, Tertullian, Origin, and the rest all have very clear things to say about baptism.

One would not know this based on the first three sermons thus far. Piper does not even mention them, the only exception being a reference to Tertullian in regard to his views on infant baptism. Nor does Piper make any suggestion that he is attempting to pass on the understanding of baptism believed by those first Christians. His understanding of baptism, it turns out, is a relatively recent invention in the history of Christianity. It is not part of the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3).

Recall that one of our main motives for putting this series here at the beginning of the summer is that we believe the New Testament calls for people to come to Christ openly and courageously. We want to see people who have been believers come to that point of public testimony and we want to see people become believers through your witness and through the ministry of the word here all summer long.

Why Did Jesus Ordain the Act of Baptism?

Sometimes we might wonder why Jesus ordained the act of baptism. Why is there such a thing as baptism? If salvation is by grace through faith, why institute a required ritual or a symbol to act out that faith?

Very good question. (Of course, baptism is more than a symbol, but we’ll move past that point right now.)

That is a question the Bible does not answer.

Sorry, but it does. Christians have known the answer from the beginning, and the answer is indeed found in the Bible. Out of charity, I must simply assume that no one has every taught Piper before what the Bible teaches in this regard. As the Ethiopian eunuch in the book of Acts proclaims, “how can I understand the Scriptures unless someone explains them to me.” We would all do well to approach the Bible with the same humility as the eunuch.

I think the reason people don’t ask the same question today is that many Christians have rejected the apostolic Church (by which I mean the Catholics and Orthodox) that interprets the Bible in an authoritative manner—the Church whose clear, strong voice in all things doctrinal and moral continues to preach the faith once delivered to the saints.

But experience teaches some interesting things.

Why simply talk about experience?  If you don’t have an answer, why not put on the table how other denominations and Christians throughout history have answered this question?

The problem with anecdotes is that they are often too simplistic. Piper is trying to determine the cause for why Christ instituted a particular “ordinance.” Not only are causes difficult things to determine, but when you offer an anecdote as evidence, then you introduce all the different possible intentions and causes that went into the scene the anecdote portrays. While I think the following two anecdotes are interesting, they hardly begin to get at a satisfying answer as to why Christ instituted Baptism, the Eucharist, Marriage, Holy Orders, Reconciliation, Confirmation, and Anointing of the Sick.

For example, after my first message three weeks ago a former missionary to the Philippines came up to me and expressed her appreciation for the series and then said why. She said that in the Philippines, where there is a good bit of nominal and syncretistic Catholicism, converts were tolerated and scarcely noticed by their family - until they came to be baptized. Then the Biblical predictions of hostility and separation came to pass. There is something about this open ritual of new-found faith that makes clear where a person stands and what he is doing. In other words, in many cultures today the situation is a lot like the situation with John the Baptist. He came preaching a baptism of repentance and those who thought they already had all they needed were often enraged.

That same week this missions magazine (The Dawn Report, May 30) came. On page 7 there is a picture of a man baptizing in a missionary setting in a river, with this caption under the picture: "Outdoor services and river baptisms are sometimes the best vehicles for growth." We simply do not know the whole constellation of reasons God had in his wisdom for prescribing baptism as a normative way of expressing faith in Christ and identification with him and his people. We can think of several reasons why it is a good thing, but we probably cannot come near to thinking of all the good effects that God intends. In the end it is an act of trust in our Father that he knows what he is doing and we are happy to act on his command.

Piper is now assuming that Baptism is an expression of faith, rather than the sacrament of faith and the moment of initial salvation. Recall that the arguments he offered so far do not point to this conclusion. As Peter puts it, baptism now saves you (1 Peter 3:21). We are born again in baptism (John 3:5). We are buried with Christ in baptism (Romans 6).

Christ commands baptism because it is the sacrament of our salvation, just as all the other sacraments are!

Immersion or Sprinkling?

But today I will try to show from Romans 5:20-6:4 a little more of the meaning of the act.

Romans 6 doesn’t really address the meaning of the act. It simply connects baptism with salvation.

Whenever someone starts to talk about “meaning,” watch out. “Meaning” is a word that depends upon precise understandings of authors’ intentions and audience. What something “means” to today’s readers might be very different from what something meant to Paul audience and from Paul himself meant. We do damage to Scripture when we relative its meaning to whatever today’s readers might make of it. Rather, we should ask what Paul meant. How did Paul understand baptism?

In other words, to talk about meaning as if we create the meaning is to fall into the post-modern trap that I discuss here. The question ought to be: what did these verses mean to Paul and to his original audience. This question can be answered in part by studying the early church fathers.

This will also address the question that some of you have regarding the mode of baptism - that is, immersion rather than sprinkling. In fact, let me begin with a general word about the mode of immersion as opposed to sprinkling.

They are not opposed. They are just two different options. The earliest Christian document that we have—the Didache, or the “teaching of the apostles”—even attests to this.

There are at least three kinds of evidence for believing that the New Testament meaning and practice of baptism was by immersion. 1) The meaning of the word baptizo in Greek is essentially "dip" or "immerse," not sprinkle.

Yes. But remember: we have to understand the horizon of acceptable practice attached to this word in its historical context. Historically, “baptizo” was used in connection with a practice that could be done by immersing, dipping, pouring, or sprinkling. Historically, no one until the Baptists and their Anabaptist predecessors made a fuss about the mode.

The irony is that Baptist make a fuss about the mode of an ordinance that, according to their theology, accomplishes nothing spiritually speaking.

Historically, Christians from the beginning have understood that baptism does effect a necessary spiritual change. Thus, the mode of baptism should be as flexible as possible, so that babies, the elderly, and those that live in deserts with no access to pools of water, could all partake of this saving sacrament.

2) The descriptions of baptisms in the New Testament suggest that people went down into the water to be immersed rather than having water brought to them in a container to be poured or sprinkled (Matthew 3:6, "in the Jordan;" 3:16, "he went up out of the water;" John 3:23, "much water there;" Acts 8:38, "went down into the water").

None of these phrases absolutely mean that immersion was used. If immersion was absolutely required, then please give me a chapter and verse that says so.

Further, even if immersion was occasionally used, and I have no reason to think that it wasn’t, this still does not rule out the possibility of other modes being acceptable as well.

3) Immersion fits the symbolism of being buried with Christ (Romans 6:1-4; Colossians 2:12).

Yes it does. And the Catholic Church for this very reason supports the use of immersion. But please don’t immerse my baby under water! Rather, just like the Holy Spirit is poured into the soul during baptism, Catholics often use the symbolic mode of pouring when infants or elderly are involved (or if the resources of the church do not allow for immersion). Just like our “hearts are sprinkled clean” with the Holy Spirit of baptism, we are symbolically sprinkled with the waters of baptism.

The Holy Spirit is not restricted to one particular mode. (I’m not saying that Piper is saying He is.)

We won't linger over this, but let me say a word about how we may look at the fact that our church and our denomination make baptism by immersion a defining part of membership in the local covenant community (but not in the universal body of Christ).

A few issues bubble to the surface in this sentence.

First, Piper acknowledges the historical reality that his denomination has made baptism by immersion only a defining part of membership. Though he qualifies membership in terms of the local covenant community, immersion-only baptisms are a defining feature of his denominational affiliation in general.

Put this in a historical context. At one point in history, Christians were less divided. Then, one group of Christians decided to divide themselves from the rest, and chose to define a ritual in such a way that anyone who was invalidly baptized needed to be rebaptized, or “Anabaptist.” Baptism, according to this new group, was for adults only and had to be done by immersion only.

These restrictions were not enforced as a kind of return to the practice of the early church. Rather, they were enforced as a means of creating clear division—recognizable division—within the Body of Christ.

The central question then is whether or not immersion is essential to baptism. If it is not, then we have an entire denomination whose historical justification is invalid. Of course, new doctrines have developed that are claimed by many Baptists (especially regarding things like premillennialism), making reconciliation even more difficult.

The second issue that bubbles to the surface has to do with the connection of covenant with the local community. Piper doesn’t define what he means by this phrase, but insofar as covenant is connected with the idea of a local community, his listeners will have far to narrow an understanding of the implications of the new covenant for the church.

As Scott Hahn has shown, the idea of covenant casts a long shadow over salvation history. God’s covenants with his people grew over time. At first the covenant people were the family of Adam and Eve. Then, the covenant family grew to include Noah’s clan. Then came the tribe of Abraham, and then the nation of Israel under Moses. All of this led up to the kingdom of nations under David. The new covenant of Christ then is a universal kingdom, a Catholic kingdom. The covenant church of the new covenant is Catholic. It is a single, world-wide kingdom of Christ. “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.”

From this perspective, the [new] covenant church is the entire, world-wide, universal, catholic Church. The Catholic Church has been called that ever since St. Ignatius coined the term at the beginning of the second century. The term Catholic is not a denominational identity. It refers to the entire united, universal kingdom of the new covenant instituted by Christ. Only when groups break off from this universal kingdom do we name (nominate) them as different, hence “denomination.” There is only one true non-denominational church, and it has existed since Christ founded her: the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is the true covenant church. To reduce covenant to the local level is to miss the universal grandeur of the new covenant people of God. (Note: I don’t think Piper necessarily misses all of this grandeur, but I do think that his use of the term “local covenant church” could potentially lead his listeners away from this same grandeur.)

We do not believe that the mode of baptism is an essential act for salvation.

Of course you don’t, since baptism is not positively necessary for salvation. Yet, ironically, many Baptist churches say that the mode is a kind of negative requirement, such that anyone who baptizes improperly doesn’t understand the gospel or isn’t saved.

So we do not call into question a person's Christian standing merely on the basis of the mode of their baptism.

Some clarification would be helpful: is Piper talking about members who join his church after having been “improperly” baptized somewhere else? Or, is he talking about Christian’s perspective on mode in general? Would he expand this statement to say that “we do not call into question a church’s standing merely on the basis of the mode of their baptisms”?

It seems as if Piper is saying that the mode of baptism is an “unessential” doctrine, a doctrine that one is not required to believe to be a Christian.

An unessential doctrine could either be one that we have no information on, or it could be a doctrine that a church takes a position on but says that its members may freely disagree.

One might then ask: should you not then admit to membership those who are truly born again but who were sprinkled as believers? There are two ways to account for why we do not.

Wait a minute. I thought he was going to say that they would admit to membership those who are truly born again but who were sprinkled as believers.

After all, isn’t the point of baptism to make the public profession? Baptism does not save, according to Piper, right? The experiential reasons Piper offered for the ritual are just as true whether the person was sprinkled publically as immersed publically, no? So why, suddenly, is Piper deeming these modes unacceptable as grounds for church membership?

1) Should we call a manmade method of baptism "baptism," if we believe on good evidence that it departs from the form that Christ inaugurated? Would this not run the risk of minimizing the significance that Christ himself invested in the ordinance?

First of all, when Piper asked what the significance was that Christ invested in the ordinance, he had no response from the Bible. He offered two anecdotes as “experiential evidence.” So, are we running the risk of minimizing the significance of Piper’s anecdotes? Actually, I would so that we are not. I would say the mode of baptism is just as significance culturally (in the case of the nominal Catholics in the Philippines) and evangelistically (in the case of the missionaries) whether it is pouring, sprinkling, or immersing. If you are going to argue that it is not, on what grounds? You’ve limited yourself to experiential grounds by saying the Bible does not speak about why Christ instituted this “ordinance.”

Second, on what grounds do you say that this mode is “manmade?” Are you saying that the Holy Spirit inspired your 20th-centurey interpretation of “baptizo” while everyone else just made up theirs? Baptism is something God made, and the historical record proves that the first followers of the apostles readily baptized by immersion, pouring, and sprinkling.

The next two paragraphs put in a nutshell a common, Protestant view of what the church is and how the Church relates to truth. Yet, I think it is easy to show that this view contains a number of problematic assumptions. Read the paragraphs as a whole first, and then I’ll repeat the text with my in-line comments:

2) Local Christian communities, called churches, are built around shared Biblical convictions, some of which are essential for salvation and some of which are not. We do not define our covenant life together only by the narrowest possible set of beliefs one must have to be saved. We believe rather that the importance of truth and the authority of Scripture are better honored when communities of Christian faith define themselves by clusters of Biblical convictions and stand by them, rather than redefining the meaning of membership each time one of their convictions is disputed. When different Christian communities can do this while expressing love and brotherly affection for other believers, both truth and love are well-served. For example, the fact that many of the speakers we invite to the Bethlehem Conference for Pastors could not be members of this church says that we take love and unity seriously and we take truth seriously.

Which non-essentials will be included from generation to generation in defining various communities depends largely on varying circumstances and varying assessments of what truths need to be emphasized.

I wanted to give the whole bit of text (above) before I address it piece by piece (below).  Here is the text again:

2) Local Christian communities, called churches, are built around shared Biblical convictions, some of which are essential for salvation and some of which are not.

It is important to note that “church” is used in Scripture in two different senses. The first sense is the one Jesus has in mind when he speaks of building His church. In this sense, there is only one church. The writers of Scripture often seem to have this sense in mind when they speak about, for example, the “Church of God in Corinth” (1 Cor. 1:2). The Church is a single entity whose parts meet in various locations. But these parts are still related to one another in a precise way, namely as parts of a single mystical body.

Of course, the Bible also speaks about local communities as “churches,” but in doing so, the authors are using a figure of speech. They are not denying that there is really only one true church.

The question, then, is: what is the church, and how do the “local Christian communities” relate to the Church as a whole?

Piper says the Church is built on shared Biblical convictions. For Catholics, the Church is built on Peter and the foundation of the apostles and their successors.

Piper gets into problems, because people could share Biblical convictions about virtually anything. They could share a Biblical conviction that Jesus was “a god,” as Jehovah’s Witnesses do. They could share a Biblical conviction that Jesus was simply a good preacher, as modernists do. The Church can not be based on shared Biblical convictions because this relativizes the Church to the majority opinion of people who happen to meet in the same building.

The Church must have some authoritative voice to be able to proclaim the truth, such that the Church can be called the “pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim. 3:15).

Of course, Piper quickly qualifies the idea of “shared Biblical convictions” by saying that some are essential for salvation and others are not.

The problem here is this: can you call it a church if the shared convictions oppose those that Piper determines are “essential for salvation?” Piper’s statement assumes that there exists some authoritative voice who can determine what doctrines are essential for salvation and which ones are not.

Yet, Piper never claims that he is that authority, and he doesn’t tell us who is.

Thus, Piper’s idea of the Church is ultimately undefined. It is impossible to know exactly if one is really a member of a true church (one that correctly teaches doctrines essential for salvation) or not (one that incorrectly teaches false doctrines and thus offers no salvation).

We do not define our covenant life together only by the narrowest possible set of beliefs one must have to be saved.

This statement is so very problematic, especially in the way it proceeds the previous statement.

First, if the Church depends on a distinction between essential doctrines and unessential doctrines, then whether the set of beliefs is wide or narrow is beside the point.

The Church MUST proclaim all essential doctrines faithfully no matter how wide or narrow they are.

Thus, it is disingenuous to say that we do not define our covenant life together only by the narrowest possible set of beliefs, because that is not the point! Piper just said we define our covenant life together based on a set of shared Biblical convictions, some of which are necessary for salvation and others of which are not.

Second, Piper seems to be giving the notion of a “narrow set of beliefs” a negative connotation. But didn’t Jesus himself say that the road to heaven was narrow and the road to hell wide?

Again, I think the point need not be about the width of the road but about truth.

And as we just saw, Piper has no way of saying exactly which truths are essential and which are not without making himself the final authority.

Thirdly, there is something a bit confusing about the idea of a “narrow set of beliefs.”

On the one hand, one might think that a “narrow set of beliefs” would be a really short list of essential beliefs.

On the other, a “narrow set of beliefs” would actually be a very long list of essential beliefs.

In the first case, the list itself is exclusive of many doctrines but inclusive of more people, since people can believe whatever they want about many things and must only abide by the short list of “essential doctrines.”

In the second case, the list itself is inclusive of many doctrines but thus excludes more people who are not willing to be obedient to the entire list.

Here’s the problem: Piper is once again hesitant to clearly define exactly what doctrines are essential and which are unessential.

Yet, if the truth is important, this clarification is absolutely necessary. Further, once this clarification is made, the implications of this is that Christians who fail on the essentials are disunified from the Body of Christ, whose membership depends on the shared essential convictions.

Of course, Piper doesn’t really define whether or not the essentials are only essential for members of Bethlehem Baptist or whether they are essential for the Body of Christ as a whole. If they are essential only for membership in the local church, does this mean that the list of essentials is even shorter for membership in the mystical body of Christ? Or, is it longer?

We believe rather that the importance of truth and the authority of Scripture are better honored when communities of Christian faith define themselves by clusters of Biblical convictions and stand by them, rather than redefining the meaning of membership each time one of their convictions is disputed.

And here we get to the nub of it all. Notice that Piper keeps the truth at arms length. Here, it is the “importance of truth” that is honored. If Jesus is the Truth, I don’t just want a ecclesial structure that acknowledges the importance of the truth. I want the truth itself! How, I would simply ask, is truth itself honored when “communities of Christian faith define themselves by clusters of Biblical convictions and stand by them”? The truth is not something we define. The truth is something that God defined once and for all in Jesus Christ, who is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Jesus Christ is the divine Word made Flesh. Truth can not be made relative to clusters of people define truth for themselves. This view of the church is absolutely contrary to the vision of the church in the Bible. Further, Piper has it backwards when he speaks of Christians standing by the truths that they have defined. When Christians define themselves by their shared Biblical convictions, their truths are standing by them! What we have here is a model that simply doesn’t work to maintain and achieve the perfect unity that Jesus desires for his entire mystical body of Christ. What we have here is a model where disunity within the entire body of Christ is not called for the tragedy that it is. We have a model that ultimately assumes, with a kind of quiet despair, that Christians will never be as unified as Christ clearly wants us to be. Piper proclaims a vision of the church that Pope John Paul II once labeled as an “institution of division.”

Piper finds himself in a difficult position, because he does not define the authority he relies on to define which Biblical interpretations are essential and which are not. Then he says that some people who have not been validly baptized can not be church members. Yet, all of this occurs within the larger context of Piper also teaching that disputation is essential within the Church. Finally, he has to protect against disputes further ripping the body of Christ apart.

Piper is ultimately caught trying to reconcile two things that are absolutely contrary to one another: love and division. Hence…

When different Christian communities can do this while expressing love and brotherly affection for other believers, both truth and love are well-served. For example, the fact that many of the speakers we invite to the Bethlehem Conference for Pastors could not be members of this church says that we take love and unity seriously and we take truth seriously.

This sounds good on the surface, but it is hardly meaningful since Piper has not defined what doctrines are essential and by what authority he knows this. After all, Piper would never let a Mormon Pastor take the pulpit to preach theology, would he? This is a classic instance of a statement that seems to be saying a lot but under the surface says nothing substantial but rather begs a host of critical questions. It is difficult to see how Piper can define “unity” in a way that is inclusive of disputation. That is: unless the only things Piper allows dispute on are unessential doctrines. But who decides what doctrines are unessential and which are essential? And by what authority?

Which non-essentials will be included from generation to generation in defining various communities depends largely on varying circumstances and varying assessments of what truths need to be emphasized.

Ultimately, Piper offers no solid, unchanging standard by which we can know what doctrines are essential and which are unessential. It is difficult to know what Piper means by “which non-essentials will be included.” Included in what? The doctrines that become temporarily essential depending on the circumstance? Is this really how truth works? Not only has Piper made truth relative in space to different local communities; here, he makes truth relative in time to “varying circumstances and varying assessments of what truths need to be emphasized.” But Piper, who determines what how truths change based on what circumstances? Who is the one with the authority to do the assessing? Can’t you see how this model leads to anarchy and chaos. After all, if you have the authority to determine what truths need to be emphasized according to your changing situation, don’t I have that same authority? Can we be satisfied just to go our separate ways?

I will pray ardently for Piper, because he seems to have fallen sway to one of the essential doctrines of modernism: that truth is relative. I know he would deny this in theory, but I think his practice (as evidenced above) gives cause for concern.  Having studied in an ultra-liberal university, I can attest to the fact that Piper's sentence above sounds almost like a credal statement of relativism.

What Baptism Portrays

With that background let's look at Romans 5:20-6:4 to see what baptism portrays, and only secondarily what implications this has for the mode of baptism. My aim here is to help you see the glorious reality that baptism points to so that, mainly, the reality itself will grip you, and that, secondarily, the beauty and significance of the act will rise in your mind and hearts. Romans 5:20-6:4:

One thing I love about being Catholic is that at Mass, I always get to hear the Scriptures without someone telling me ahead of time what to expect out of them.  It is ironic that, for all the times that Catholics are accused of adding "traditions" to Scripture, the Catholic liturgy protects the reading of the Scriptures from being framed by commentary.  In this case, notice the ideas that Piper plants about Romans before actually reading Romans: "what baptism portrays" and "the reality that baptism points to."  Ask yourself: is this what Paul is saying about baptism?

Piper then reads from Romans:

And the Law came in that the transgression might increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, (21) that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (6:1) What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? (2) May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? (3) Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? (4) Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.

Notice the rhetorical emphasis Paul places on v. 3: "Do you not know"?  And then in v. 4, "THEREFORE, we have been buried with Him through baptism."  The "therefore" tends to get overlooked by readers.  The word connects what follows as a kind of result or summation of everything that came before (not only in the verses quoted but even in the buildup in chapter 5 and before, which talk about how sin came through Adam and salvation through the New Adam, Christ).  And what conclusion do Paul draw?  That we are buried with Christ in baptism.  Baptism marks the moment of our new birth into life.  Baptism is an action that brings us into the death and life of Christ.  But then notice how Piper twists Paul's use of language in his very first sentence:

One of the great things about this text is that it shows that, if you understand what baptism portrays, you understand what really happened to you when you became a Christian.

Immediately, Piper returns to the notion of Baptism portraying something that previously happened: that point of time when his reader became a Christian.  Yet, Paul's parlance connects baptism with that very moment!

Many of us came to faith and were baptized at a point when we did not know very much. This is good. It is expected that baptism happens early in the Christian walk when you do not know very much. So it is also expected that you will learn later more and more of what it means.

A little clarification is in order.  After all, if it is okay to be baptized before one really knows the faith, then why can't babies be baptized.  In other words, where does Piper draw the line regarding what must be consciously known by a person before that person is eligible to have their soul regenerated by God?  And, where does the Bible draw this line?  Or, is Piper the one to decide where the line is drawn, such that "it is good" on one side of the line but "not good" on the other?

Don't think, "Oh, I must go back and get baptized again. I didn't know it had all this meaning." No. No. That would mean you would be getting re-baptized with every new course you take in Biblical theology. Rather, rejoice that you expressed your simple faith in obedience to Jesus and now are learning more and more of what it all meant.

Hmm...  I tend to think that there are not that many new adult Christians who accept Christ as Lord and Savior but haven't the faintest idea about the belief system that they are joining.  In other words, the idea of a "simple faith" probably applies to very few adults.  Most adults have some formation of what it means to be a Christian, and the stronger this formation, the better.  After all, how can one say they've really given their life to Jesus if they have no idea of what that really entails?  Further, the very process of becoming a Christian usually entails basic lessons in what it means to make an act of faith and then, in Baptist circles, to partake in "believer's baptism."  So, on the topic of baptism, most new Baptist Christians have probably already adopted the basic baptist viewpoint that Piper is rehearsing.  What is amazing to me as a Catholic is that after four sermons, Piper hasn't really gone any deeper in baptism than what I would except a new Christian to know.  After all, if you limit baptism to being a symbol, how much more is there to say?  If baptism is a sign that points to a reality, why even spend four sermons studying the sign?

That is what Paul is doing here: he is hoping that his readers know what their baptism meant, but he goes ahead and teaches them anyway, in case they don't or have forgotten. Learn from these verses what you once portrayed in the eyes of God, and what actually happened to you in becoming a Christian.

I am going to deal with only two things that baptism portrays, according to these verses.

1. Baptism portrays our death in the death of Christ.

Paul never says baptism portrays anything!  He uses much stronger language, saying that we are baptized into Christ's death, and that we are buried with Christ in baptism.

Verses 3-4a: "Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death," Here is a great truth about us Christians. We have died. When Christ died he died our death. This means at least two things. 1) One is that we are not the same people we once were; our old self has died. We are not the same. 2) Another is that our future physical death will not have the same meaning for us that it would have had if Christ had not died our death. Since we have died with Christ, and he died our death for us, our death will not be the horrible thing it would have been. "O death where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?" (1 Corinthians 15:55). The answer is that the sting and the victory of death have been swallowed up by Christ. Remember from last week: he drank the tank. Notice the repetition of the word "into" in verses 3 and 4. Baptized "into Christ Jesus," and baptized "into his death" (verse 3), and baptism "into death" (verse 4a).

Yes, notice these things!

What this says is that baptism portrays our union with Christ, that is, we are united to him spiritually so that his death becomes our death and his life will become our life. How do we experience this? How do you know if this has happened to you? The answer is that it is experienced by faith.

No!  Paul says you experience it--that it happens to you--in baptism, which the Catholic Church calls the "sacrament of faith."  Faith and baptism are not opposed, so it is not a matter of pitting one against the other, which is what Piper (but not the Catholic Church) does.  So many people set up a dichotomy between faith and baptism that it is difficult for them to choose baptism (as Paul does in Romans) because it seems to downplay faith.  Actually, faith must be present at baptism, but it is baptism that Christ regenerate our souls through the action of the Holy Spirit.  Unfortunately for Piper, he operates under this false, un-Scriputural dichotomy, which leads him to answer his own questions incorrectly directly after he reads how Paul answers them.  Amazing!

You can hear this in the parallel verses. Galatians 2:20 makes the connection with faith: "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live but Christ lives in me, and the life I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God. . ." In other words, the "I" who died was the old unbelieving, rebellious "I" and the "I" who came to life was the "I" of faith - "The life I now live I live by faith in the Son of God." And the basis of all this is union with Christ - "Christ lives in me." And I live in him - in spiritual union with him. His death is my death and his life is being lived out in my life.

Here, Piper's argument again hinges on a false dichotomy between faith and baptism.  He is trying to back up the faith side of the equation as if this nullifies everything Paul said in Romans about "being baptized into Christ."

Another illustration of this would be Colossians 2:6-7a: "As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith." Here again you can see that faith in Christ is the way you experience union with Christ. You receive him as Lord and Savior and in that faith you are united to him and walk "in him" and are built up "in him."

Ditto.

So when Romans 6:3-4a says that we are baptized into Christ and into his death, I take it to mean that baptism expresses the faith in which we experience union with Christ. This is presumably why God designed the mode of baptism to portray a burial. It represents the death that we experience when we are united to Christ. This is why we are immersed: it's a symbolic burial.

Piper makes it clear how he reaches his conclusion.  "Verses A and B say faith.  Therefore, verse C can not actually mean what it seems to say."  At the same time, it is clear that Piper is reading his view onto Romans:  "when Romans says X, I take it to mean Y."  

Sorry, Piper, but Romans says X because it means X.  It means that we are buried with Christ in baptism.  How much clearer could Paul have said it?  How much clearer could Peter have been when he preached "baptism...now saves you"?

Part of the problem continues to be that Piper is hung up a bit on the physical symbolism of being immersed under water rather than on the spiritual regeneration--the "circumcision made without hands"--that is truly efficacious action being performed by Christ in baptism.  Of course, it is not mere water or mere washing that saves, but the washing and renewal in the Holy Spirit hovering over the waters that saves us.  Notice above, and below, that Piper continues talking about the symbolism of the waters without any reference to the Spirit that is connected with those waters.

So know, believer, that you have died. The old unbelieving, rebellious "I" has been crucified with Christ. This is what your baptism meant and means.

2. Baptism portrays our newness of life in Christ.

Verse 4: "We have been buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life." Nobody stays under the water of baptism. We come up out of the water. After death comes new life. The old "I" of unbelief and rebellion died when I was united to Christ through faith. But the instant the old "I" died a new "I" was given life - a new spiritual person was, as it were, raised from the dead.

The most crucial commentary on this truth is Colossians 2:12. Paul says, "Having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead." Notice: We are raised up with Christ just like Romans 6:4 says we walk in newness of life. And there is the working of God who raised him from the dead just like Romans 6:4 says that Christ was raised through the glory of the Father. And this happens through faith in the working of God who raised Jesus from the dead.

 Once again, Piper says this happens through faith as a way of saying it does not happen in Baptism, where the verses themselves say the "being buried with Christ" occurs.  How many times does Piper have to contradict the Scriptures on this point before people see that Piper is at odds with Paul?

So Colossians 2:12 makes explicit what Romans 6:4 leaves implicit - that baptism expresses our faith in the working of God to raise Jesus from the dead.

Again, there is a misplaced emphasis.  Only secondarily is baptism an expression that we make to God.  Baptism is primarily a work of God on us.  It is primarily God making a covenant with us, and expression of God to us.  It is primarily God saving us.  Piper denies that God works through baptism, and thus, he can only see in it the actions of man--the expression of our faith in God's work.

We believe that Christ is alive from the grave and reigning today at the Father's right hand in heaven from which he will come again in power and glory. And that faith in God's working - God's glory as Paul calls it - is how we share in the newness of life that Christ has in himself.

Sorry, but Paul just said it was through baptism that we share in the newness of life.  Yet again, Piper is contradicting Paul.  

In fact, the newness of life is the life of faith in the glory and the working of God. "I am crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live . . but the life I live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God." The newness of life is the life of day by day trusting in the working of God - the glory of God.

Baptism Portrays What Happened to us When We Became Christians

So let's summarize and come to a conclusion.

Notice, Piper says he will summarize, when in fact, he has simply been repeating the same idea (faith, not baptism) over and over in slightly different language, in every case contradicting the clear language used by Paul.

Baptism portrays what happened to us when we became Christians.

Paul never uses this language.

This is what happened to us: we were united to Christ. His death became our death. We died with him. And in the same instant, his life became our life. We are now living out the life of Christ in us. And all this is experienced through faith.

 Paul connects this with baptism, which of course is not opposed to faith.  Faith must be present, but we are not saved by our own faith.  We are saved by the action of God regenerating our fallen souls.

This is what it means to be a Christian - to live in the reality of what our baptism portrays: day by day we look away from ourselves to God and say, "Because of Christ, your Son, I come to you. In him I belong to you. I am at home with you. He is my only hope of acceptance with you. I receive that acceptance anew every day. My hope is based on his death for me and my death in him. My life in him is a life of faith in you, Father. Because of him I trust your working in me and for me. The same power and glory that you used to raise him from the dead you will use to help me. In that promise of future grace I believe, and in that I hope. That is what makes my life new. O Christ, how I glory in what my baptism portrays! Thank you for dying my death for me and giving new life to me. Amen."

Everything above is true except the insistence on living in what our Baptism portrays.  Following Paul, the Catholic Church teaches: "live out your baptism!"  Which is why Catholics always have and always will pray in the family name we were given at our baptisms: the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  Amen!

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Lord Jesus, I thank you for my brother in faith and in baptism, John Piper, and I grieve that the mode of regeneration that made us members of the same family is now a source of disunity that keeps us separated from the perfect unity you desire for us.  I pray for Piper and for all my separated brothers and sisters in the Lord that they will come to appreciate the glorious reality of what you accomplish through this amazing sacrament, through which you save all who come to you in faith.  I thank you for my own baptism, and I ask for ever more grace to live out my baptismal promises: to follow you and to reject Satan.  Lord, pour out your Holy Spirit anew so that Christians may be reunified, all for your glory and honor, and for the salvation of souls.

For this, we pray in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, Amen!